Why Men Overthink Their Lives | Stefanos Koutsoumpis

Ever chased success so hard you forgot to ask if it made you happy? We sit down with Stefanos, men’s coach, physicist by training, and lifelong tinkerer, to unpack what truly changes when you stop performing and start aligning your life with your values. From a small Greek seaside town to the lab and beyond, he maps how curiosity and grit can morph into overwork and burnout when you’re running on borrowed goals.

We get practical about mindfulness, not as a buzzword but as the first honest pause. Stefanos shares the moment he finally sat still, noticed the relentless negative scan, and realized attention is a muscle you can train. That’s where positive psychology enters: less about affirmations, more about consistent reps that rewire the brain. We talk gratitude you can feel, brief daily check-ins, and the simple rituals that act like mental hygiene, unflashy, repeatable, and powerful over time.

Community becomes the multiplier. If you’ve never been truly heard, a men’s group can feel like oxygen. We explore how a circle of trust lowers stress, builds empathy, and shows you you’re not the only one negotiating panic at 3 a.m. or questioning a shiny career path. Stefanos breaks down why many high-achieving men can’t name what they feel, and how waking up to your emotions gives you leverage to act. We also tackle the myth that pursuing happiness is selfish; with better boundaries, you give more, not less—think oxygen mask first so you can actually help others.

You’ll leave with a clearer frame: confidence comes from doing, alignment comes from values, and happiness is the ultimate currency. If you’re feeling the quiet weight of “more,” this conversation offers tools, language, and next steps you can start today. Want to go deeper, join a men’s group, or work with a coach who believes you can change? Visit mindfullife.coach or check the links to connect with us. If this resonated, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to help more men find their way.

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Transcript

Welcome And Guest Introduction

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Man in Progress, Forging Manhood. I'm Travis Murray, values coach, and your guide to building a life driven by real values. Each week we explore what it means to be a man today. Talk about and to thinkers and doers who've been through it, and give you steps to show up better for yourself and those you love. If you're ready to forge your own path, you're in the right place. Let's get to it. Welcome back to Man in Progress, Forging Manhood. I'm your host, Travis Murray, and today we have an interesting guest. Here is Stefanos.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Hi, Travis. So nice being here with you today. So I'm Stefanos. I'm a men's coach. I'm based in Athens, Chris actually. And you know, my purpose and my work is to help men be happier and more content without having to give up what they have been building for the whole of their lives.

What A Men’s Coach Actually Does

SPEAKER_00 0:51

All right. Sounds amazing. I love that message. That's what I'm about. That's what I want to do. I want to serve men in my audience with values, with enrichment in their life. And so, you know, I'll just fire off a question for you, Stefanos. I want to start simple. If someone were to meet you, say, in a coffee shop or somewhere in public and asked you what you do, how would you explain it to them?

SPEAKER_01 1:16

You know, it's always hard to explain what the coach does or does not, because most of the time the person who sits with me does all the work. I'm just there to ask questions and make pretty intuitive observations. So what I do is, you know, I'm starting with the values of being happy, and I'm trying to see if the person across me, what they do with their lives, aligns to that and is helping them to do that. And you know, through all the things that I have read and have practiced and have tried, I'm picking the tools, uh, small habits and rituals, and I'm trying to to help them incorporate them in their lives and see how this will turn out for them.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Yeah, that makes sense. As a coach, that's that's what you want to do. You want to draw out the better version of the person that you're helping. And that's the whole point of being a coach, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Yeah, exactly. You know, when we're in school, we're little children, they always teach us new things and we have to learn all these things. But you know, now we're adults, we know what is going well in our life. But we just need a bit of space to distress and think clearly. So this is what I'm helping people uh develop some space where they can think for themselves.

Childhood Curiosity And Small-Town Pressure

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Yeah, and I love that. And honestly, I just want to have the audience kind of get to know you a little bit. So uh I'm just gonna ask you, what kind of kid were you back then? Were you like a quiet observer, the curious one, or like the troublemaker when you were growing up?

SPEAKER_01 2:58

I was uh the quiet kid and I was pretty curious about the world. I always remember myself reading about nature, about animals, about machines. I would take my toys and I would totally disassemble disassemble them and see their parts, how they were made, and then I would make my own toys. And uh I always enjoyed a lot observing other people as well. And it took me many years to make some use of that, but it was something fun that and it's something fun that I still do.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

I love that. As a kid, I I kind of did the same thing. I I got a I got this toy, and I can't remember what it was. I think it was like a Simon says or something like that, and I took it completely apart before I even turned it on to play with it. I took it to my room, took it apart, and tried to figure out how it worked. And I I love that because that's that's who I am today. I try to figure out how things work. Now, um I I read that you grew up in a small seaside town in Greece. What was life like that for you growing up?

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Pretty simple, man. Pretty simple. You know, it was a small uh town, actually, not that many people. So my the the guys that I went to kindergarten, some of them were with me until later in high school. And uh you knew all the people in the area, all the girls in the same age, you you've met everyone, and you know this is good because you have a strong social circle, but then again, it puts a bit of stress because there is a lot of peer pressure, everyone knows about you, whatever you do could be discussed. So, depending on the confidence levels that you have, this can be a bit of a disadvantage, actually, that you know you can't do anything that will stay silent.

Leaving Home And Learning Adult Skills

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Yeah, no, I I absolutely agree with you there. I grew up in a small town too, about I'd say 1800 to 2,000 people. And so I played football, and and and when you're in high school playing football, it's different because you go around town and people will stop you and ask you, how you feeling? You ready for that game? You this and that? And you always have to talk about how ready you are and how prepared you are, because you want to give everyone in that town confidence that you're gonna be doing, you know, well in that. And then when when you passed through that that high school phase and when you were 18, you you made the choice to just move out and start your own life at that point, right? What was that transition like for you going from having that support of your family to just being by yourself and in that way?

SPEAKER_01 5:35

You know, I went for studies when I was 18, I moved to a different uh city, and uh from then on I I will live on my own, I will, you know, cook my own meals, I will clean my own room and I will meet new people. I will say that I was not ready for that transition. So it was hard, it was pretty hard, and it took me maybe four or five years actually to get around that and have a good schedule and be again confident in myself that I can make it through. But also, it was totally out of my comfort zone. I learned a lot, and a lot of the life skills I got from that move, I wouldn't have them, and I wouldn't be the same person if I was like some other people who stayed close to their parents and they always had their support. So this somehow speed up my myself becoming an adult and myself taking responsibilities and being ready for life, actually.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Yeah, I love that. That is a that is a great way to move forward. And some of us, you know, growing up, we get stuck living with parents or we move out and we have to gain those skills. You mentioned confidence and you know, some social skills there were scarce when you moved out. What's a moment from that time that still kind of makes you laugh inside? Something that took place that you're like, you kind of shake your head at, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 7:02

You know, there are a lot of mini silly situations. I remember trying to find a job as a barista or as a waiter, and they told me, okay, do you want to be a barista? And I was too confused by that. And you know, it's it's such a simple choice, and it's so easy that I can do it today. If you take me and place me into a bar, I can do that. But at that point it was so hard. Or, you know, I was trying to sell a motorbike that I had, and it was such a drama and such drag to do it, because you know, I've never worked with money before. So I I never negotiated. And when people will come to me and they will negotiate, I will feel abused actually. And today it's common sense, and maybe I am doing this to other people, but at that point I was not prepared. So it's silly nowadays, but it was stressful at that point for sure.

Confidence Built By Doing

SPEAKER_00 7:57

Yeah, and I bet a lot of people go through stuff like that. I mean, I picked rock. I w I went out in the desert and I just took a pickaxe and picked rock out of the ground, cut it down to shape, and and my company sold it for like lawn, lawn services or home repairs or things like that. And so I I get it. You when you don't have the skills, you have to build them. And I talk about this a lot about confidence. Confidence is built through doing stuff. Like you're not, you weren't confident in being a barista, but now you could step into a bar and be a barista without without even thinking about it, right? And so that's kind of how confidence gets built. And I and I talk about that a lot. Now, I want to I want to try to progress in this. You you said you went out for studies. You went on to earn a PhD in physics, right? And that's that's not a casual academic path. What drew you toward that world?

Why Pursue A PhD In Physics

SPEAKER_01 8:48

You know, like I told you, even when I was really young, I would love to learn about nature, about animals, I will watch a lot of documentaries. So, you know, the love of learning is something that I still carry around with me until today. And I was very, very good at that also because I was studying hard, I was book smart, and I loved learning and solving problems, actually. So a big part of doing a PhD is that you go and find an unsolved problem and you try to work around that, uh, tweak it. You experiment, you know. I was doing physics, so we were doing experiments, and you fail and you learn. And this is something I still use today. You know, it's been many years since I've done any math or any physics. I have forgotten most of the things, but I still have that mindset. I'm I'm carrying it with me, but experimenting and searching for the truth in data, not in thoughts or in feelings or in what other people are saying. I have to test something to be sure that it's true, even if it is an idea I have or someone else has.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Yeah, and that makes sense because you went on to you know get your doctorate. What did you imagine after doing such a thing, your life would be like, say, five years after the fact or even ten?

SPEAKER_01 10:19

At that point, I thought that you know it'll be a huge academic career or a high-paid job in the corporate or something like that when I was doing that. It's not what I found, but this was also part of the learning process, actually.

SPEAKER_00 10:35

Yeah, fair. And that's that's kind of how it is, right? When did you start noticing that something still kind of felt off? Because I I went through the same experience with the corporate jobs and traveling and doing all that stuff. Nothing just felt like my purpose was being drawn out, and I wanted to find a way to do so. So, in that same sense, I'm asking you, when did you learn that you weren't going the path that you wanted that you felt most aligned with?

Success Without Fulfillment And Early Warning Signs

SPEAKER_01 11:05

You know, uh I I this will take a bit of a darker tone at this point. I was doing pretty, pretty well as a physicist and as a researcher, and frankly speaking, I could still do this, and maybe I was will be a professor at some university or something like that. At some point, I had two problems. One was okay, I was uh children out of a family of six, so I needed some money and I needed to have some safety in my life. So this was the practical problem. The other thing is that even though I was growing up and I was building my life, and you know, I I grew up socially, I made friends, I made girlfriends, I I did had a lot of travels, I had things in my life. I still didn't get this as part of my confidence. I was always lacking, and I will try to compensate by working more, by doing more. You know, I it's the formal culture. You you have to do everything. So I was trying to do everything, and at some point I realized, okay, this is not right. Because I will never feel enough. This hunger will never end. So maybe something is off with how I'm perceiving the world. And this was before uh working in the corporate, uh, while I was uh still in physics. I realized that okay, maybe I need some help right now, someone to explain why I'm feeling like this and what I can do about this. And you know, nowadays I know that someone can live in a hut and be super happy, and someone might live in a castle and be super miserable. So of course we don't want to be the guy living in the hut, but we don't want to be miserable either.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

Yeah, and that makes perfect sense. I kind of had a moment like that myself. I was out traveling for work, and it started becoming this process of every night sleeping alone without my wife and my family near me that I just I started to have panic attacks, really. And it just would be onset, I'd be sleeping, I'd wake up, and I was like, something's not right. So I started doing some research onto myself and what I wanted to do and what I enjoyed doing. And I I never felt happier than when I was actually teaching about the products we were using and stuff like that. So I learned I actually really want to help people. That's where I'm gonna feel fulfilled. And so that's where I kind of went as well. So I'm glad that you I'm glad that you talked about that because you know, it really is the journey that changed. And when you discover yourself in those moments, you start to branch out and rediscover new things. Like you discovered mindfulness and positive psychology. How did that discovery happen for you?

Discovering Mindfulness And Positive Psychology

SPEAKER_01 13:54

You know, I like what you are saying about traveling and realizing that it was not worth it actually. And traveling sounds fun, but we have to go back and ask, okay, it sounds fun, but is it fun? Is it fun for me? Because for some people it is, or it seems that it is, but is it is it fun for me? Somehow, this is how I discovered actually mindfulness and how I got into positive psychology. Mindfulness was a subject that came back to me many times in my life. I was reading something in a book and there was mindfulness, and then I was practicing something and it was mindfulness, and it kept reoccurring in my life until I actually sat down and understood what it is about. For me, it was really an aha moment because for the first time in my life, I gave myself the space to sit alone, quiet in a room and do nothing. I couldn't do that. I couldn't relax like that. So mindfulness was for me the first time in my life that I actually sat down with myself and relaxed and had the check-in. Okay, how am I doing today? And then again, moving to habits and rituals and and you know how to better ourselves. We spend a lot of time thinking on the negatives. And this is something you you notice when you are becoming more mindful in your life. We're spending a lot of time, you know, nudging about things, reading the news, and you know, right now it's war actually all over the world and it's very bad. We are reading bad news from everywhere, but there are also some things that happen in our lives and they are good. You know, I had a nice coffee with my girlfriend this morning. This is something good. I don't think that much of that. I had a great vacation three weeks ago. Why am I not thinking about that? There are good moments in our lives. So positive psychology gave me the tools that I was looking at at that point to shift my focus to not trying to not do harm, but actually do good for myself. So not be reactive to bad feelings, but be proactive to good feelings.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

I love that. That speaks in volumes, if you will, because positive psychology is often misunderstood. A lot of times when you hear positive psychology, you start to just hear, you know, tell yourself good things, look in the mirror and tell yourself 17 different affirmations so that you feel good throughout the day. And like I said, it's misunderstood. For people who don't know what that actually means, can you explain it a little bit better? Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

What Positive Psychology Really Means

SPEAKER_01 16:45

So positive psychology is the field of psychology that works with healthy individuals. And we're going to people who have been doing well in their lives and just observe them and look what are they doing different? And what we can take from their lives and incorporate in our lives. And most of the things that we're seeing, it's not about knowledge, it's not about information, you know, it's about repetition of doing good things. We learn a lot about neuroplasticity that we, you know, we can still change our brain and doesn't matter how old we are. So we learn how to wire our brain towards a happier version. And this takes a lot of practice. And I always I'm always giving this example about you know information versus practicing. And you know, I I can go and read a book about nutrition and bodybuilding and imagine that I will sleep and wake up shredded like you know Schwageneger. But it will never happen. And it's not about affirmations, it's not about you know positive beliefs, it won't happen if I don't put the hours in the gym, no, be punctual in the gym three or four times every week and be super punctual with my lunchbox and my proteins and creatins and everything. So it will take, even if I was doing this, it will take four or five years before I will be build some muscle that you will be able to see. And I will be still a long road to to being a pro. So it's similar for our feelings and our brain. It's not about information, it's not about reading a book on you know five ways to be happier. I have something like that, but but it's not about reading it, it's about practicing those ways that will make you feel happier. And you know, it's like I said, it's practice gratitude, journaling, having a positive time with your friends and your loved ones, having friends that support you and staying staying in touch with the people and staying in touch with yourself and checking in. This is not something you are doing once per year and and it's it's okay. No, it's something that you want to have it like brushing your teeth. We're brushing our teeth daily. So this is our physical hygiene. We want to do also something for our mental hygiene daily.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

I love that. And honestly, it speaks volumes because I've I've crafted some YouTube videos around those subjects. Like for those that are watching this on YouTube, I'm gonna put a link right here in the in the box on the top right of the screen for the video for 15 daily habits that can help you be more successful. And then I'll put a link for another video about actually, you know, brotherhood and why it's important to have a community of people who help you stay accountable for the things that you're doing. And I've talked about this in my podcast for practicing. When you're trying to build values, you have to identify the ones that you currently have, positive or negative, and then you need to write it down. You need to figure out how in that way you can take your positive values and reinforce them, and how you can take your, if you will, negative values and change them. Because the fact is we all have them and we all have to go through this process, and it takes time. And if you don't practice, like I've had the dreams where, you know, I'm shredded and I feel great and I and I exercise daily and all that stuff. And I wake up and I'm like, I better go walk on the treadmill. You know what I mean? Because we all have that. We want the better life, but we don't want to be uncomfortable enough to go through the steps in getting it. So in that way, to just to kind of put some humor on this, because I always talk about humor being part of the forged process. When you first started exploring mindfulness, Stefanos, did you ever have one of those moments where you thought, this is weird, but I think it might actually work?

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Yeah, yeah. There are a lot, a lot of those moments, you know. There are a lot of those moments. I was ashamed to be seen on my balcony, you know, sitting in the sitting position, for example. And you know, when I was practicing, sometimes it can get intense, and I will have experiences that I would feel strange in in my body, so it felt weird. So it took me many years to talk to other people about this. No, nowadays I'm using this, nowadays I'm teaching this, but it took me many years finding the strength and the courage to say to other people, okay, I'm doing this. It will sound strange, but it will work. So surely, surely it did. And you know, it's all this culture of maybe this woo-hoo thinks that okay, they sound too good to be true. Yeah, it sounds too good to be true, and it can get uncomfortable, but you won't know until you try.

Habits, Mental Hygiene, And Accountability

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Yeah, that's 100% positive. You won't know until you try. And to give something a good try. Not just, okay, I tried it today, I didn't like it, so I'm gonna move on. But like I've spent weeks developing values that I thought would be useful to me and realized that they weren't and re-change them so that I could be a better person for myself, for my kids, for my family. So it takes time. You have to take the information in, you have to practice, because if you don't, then you're not using that value, you're not using that information to the best of its ability. And speaking on that, it does help to have somebody keep you accountable, like a coach. And Stefanos, you've lived an experience of being successful through paper, through your PhD, through the businesses that you worked with. Is that something that you see a lot with the men that you work with, just kind of them getting to that point where they're successful, but still feeling, say, empty inside?

Trying Mindfulness When It Feels Weird

SPEAKER_01 22:58

You know, actually, I I was unlucky in my life to have some friends who experienced burnt out in their work. And it's much worse than it sounds, because you have a person who can't get up from the bed one morning and he doesn't have a clue why this happened. Even if we move far before that moment, most of the men I'm speaking to and I'm trying to learn a bit about their lives and ask how was their day, they can't quite express how they are feeling. I'm trained to to see people and read people, and I can see you know stress in their faces, in their bodies, feelings, I can see things that they are not expressing at that moment, but they can't. They can't feel them in the bo their bodies. So this is something I'm seeing a lot with men. We are a lot, you know, we are self-driven, we can motivate ourselves, but we're not that good with self-insight, understanding what is going on inside, or why are we doing this? I mean, okay, this is what got me here. Why was I doing a PhD? Why was I doing a corporate job? I didn't know. So I had to answer those questions and you know, like you are saying, go back to those values and see which values brought me here today and are they serving me right now? Because they were serving me at some point in my life, but are they still holding true for myself? And if not, what should I do about that? And what do I want my life to look like? So there is this moment that some men get to have where they realize they wake up actually. For me, all those years that I was unaware of how I was feeling, it was like you know, dreaming, like being in a limbo. So there's this waking up moment where your emotions take up and you can then understand better yourself, the others, what's going on, and you start to feel uncomfortable and know that you are feeling uncomfortable. So this is the magic moment when you know that you are feeling uncomfortable, that you have leverage, and you can take actions. You can look into that. You can ask your friends, your your girlfriend, your coach, your whoever, your mentor, and try to find out.

unknown 25:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Totally worth it, by the way. It is, it is. I went through that, right? I I spoke about that a couple years ago. I was traveling for work and I thought I enjoyed it. I was meeting new people, I was experiencing new things. But every night I went to bed before I before I actually left that corporate job, I was having panic attacks and they were unexplainable to me. I didn't know why. I couldn't figure out why. And it wasn't until I myself got a coach that I learned that it was because I was feeling unfulfilled and unsatisfied. And this work I was doing wasn't doing anything to drive that fulfilledness. And so, you know, I took a drastic measure and I left my job, you know, against my coach's better judgment. But in that same way, he was leading me down that path and was trying to direct me into something and find my purpose so that I could then follow that. It did take me a little bit longer to get there, but you know, he was very successful in drawing that out of me. And it looks like you would be the same. If I had you for a coach, I would have had the same exact outcome, I believe. Or, or maybe even a better one. Who knows? But, you know, men are men are busy, they're responsible, they're doing everything they're supposed to do. Many of them still feel that disconnection. And and you explained why that happens. So I would I would suggest that you reach out. If you're feeling disconnected, if you're feeling that slump, that panic attack, that don't want to get out of bed, and you don't have a coach, reach out, find a coach, find Stefanos, find myself. We are we are open and ready to take on clients and get as many men into a better path that we possibly can. And, you know, men's groups, right? So for some listening who have never experienced something like that, what actually happens in those groups?

High Achievers, Numbness, And Burnout

SPEAKER_01 27:33

You know, many of us, no matter how old we are, we've never been heard in our life. Every time we're speaking to someone, they are waiting to take their turn. No one really understands you or no one really wants to listen to you, especially as a man. Women do have those supportive circles, but we don't have them. And even with my friends, I can tell that we're not doing this. So what happens in a man's group is that we are building this circle of trust and we're giving the space to people to be able to speak up and actually be heard. And for some people, this is the first time in their lives that they are being heard. So this is a cathartic experience actually, having people caring about what you are saying. And there is a discussion, and when I'm sharing something, people can ask me questions, and this helps a lot for myself to or for the one who's speaking to get better awareness. It helps a lot with lowering the stress. It builds a common moment for the group, and people are getting connected actually. They are building their empathy, they are building their emotional intelligence, they are building their listening skills. And also the people who are the observers, they learn a lot because they are getting perspectives from the lives of others. And they get to see that okay, they have challenges in their lives, but other people have similar or more extreme challenges or similar challenges, but they are struggling as well. So I'm not the only one who struggles. And this gives you perspective when you are in a group, and it helps a lot, you know, with with your stress levels, with how you are thinking about things, and about what you are you're gonna do the next day about what you are struggling with.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Many men worry that focusing on their happiness is selfish. I know that I felt that way in the beginning. I don't know if you felt that way. But how do you respond to that when when a man in your group or in your coaching asks you if it's selfish to work on their own happiness?

Waking Up To Your Emotions

SPEAKER_01 29:56

You know, I I grew up with this value that it was selfish to look for yourself. You we should always be altruistic. And I used to think that, you know, uh giving to others and taking care of yourself, they're opposites. But nowadays, what I know from research and from experience is that people who take care of themselves actually take better care of others as well. They have better boundaries with themselves, with the others, they're more giving to everyone. And this is no a thing of the Western culture, because if you go to the East, they can't quite understand this. You know, loving yourself is the same as loving the others, and loving the others is the same as loving yourself. So it's a cultural thing, it's something that we were taught, and maybe you know it's it's about Christianity or whatever we have here, but it's a Western thing. What we know from from people is that the and from research is that people who take care of themselves, they are ready to take care of others. And you know, even in the airplanes, they have those instructions that put on your own oxygen masks before helping others. This will be more efficient. So this is what we're going to to learn and do also in our real lives. Put on our own oxygen masks, help ourselves first so we are in a good position to help others as well.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Yeah, and that's that's exactly it. You put on the mask of yourself before you put on the mask of others. And that's that's true no matter where you are in life as a father. You you you need to be centered, you need to help yourself, or else you can't teach and instruct your child. You can't show them how to live a good life if you're not living one. So you need to help yourself. Take the time to do so. We're not, you know, a coach isn't going to ask you to take every day of every month to be better, but they are going to take, you know, maybe an hour here or there and have you do the work to become that better person that you want to be. So the rest of the month, you can have that time to be better with your children, with your family, with your friends, with your coworkers. And you get to be that better person because of that. And you get to help them grow into a better person because of that. So look for a coach. Find someone that that really works well with you. And I'll drop a link for Stefano's coaching in my in the YouTube description and in the description of the podcast episode here. There's also a link for mine. So if you feel like one of us resonates with you, reach out. Don't hesitate, reach out. And Stefano's, when someone decides to work with you, what values guide the way that you show up for them?

SPEAKER_01 32:56

You know, I I come out out of a place of service. This is how I want to think of myself. So I'm trying to really feel how the other person is feeling and understand when where he's coming from, get into his shoes as much as I can so I can understand him better. So this is one thing. And the next one is that I do believe in change. I do believe, and I've seen it in practice, that people can change, they can grow. So I'm coming out of a place where I know that and I believe in people, and so I empower them to do that because they do have it inside of them.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

Yeah, and that's exactly it. You know, Stefanos, if someone listening today wants to learn more about your work or to join one of your groups, where should they go?

Why Men’s Groups Work

SPEAKER_01 33:47

They can find my my link in your in the description. Uh, there I have the information about what I do, the information about the men's groups. The men's groups are open and people can join, and I'll be happy to see people coming in and get to know them. I have a small guide with uh, like you mentioned before, with habits. I have five habits that can help you be happier and more successful today. And uh there are all the instructions actually on how to implement them, not just the knowledge, because like we said, it's all about implementation. So if anyone wants to reach out, I'll be more than open to have this discussion and see how I can best help them with.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

And you'll be able to find all of that in the description of the podcast here. But for those listening, Stefanos, what is a good website that they could visit for you? It is mindfullife.coach. Mindfullife.coach. Exactly. There it is, mindfullife.coach. Give that website a visit. Go look over Stefanos' profile and and click the buttons to work with Stefanos today because everyone needs a coach. I need a coach. We all need a coach. We all it helps us grow. It helps us get out those feelings, it helps us get out that talk that we need to talk about. You know, Stefanos, we're coming up on the end of the episode here. I'm gonna give you a couple minutes just to kind of go over anything that you want to. I know we already talked about your guide and your coaching. So if there's anything else or just a last value or last word that you want to say, go ahead. The floor is yours.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

I will come with uh with a value from from my quotes, actually. And it goes like this happiness is the ultimate currency. This is what we should be striving for. This is what we are doing, all the things in our lives. So we should keep this in mind in every decision that we are taking. Is this making more happy or less less happy? Is it making me miserable? Happiness is the ultimate currency, not euros, not dollars, not not things like that. Not crypto, you know.

You Are A Man In Progress

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Awesome, awesome. And I'll I'll end it on this. You are not behind. You are not late, you are not broken. You are a man in progress. Keep forging.